abilify and Odd? Containdications in use for Odd is it helpful
versantly replied: "if you are "odd", you can still use it. the doctor prescribing you the meds should discuss all risks & benefits with you BEFORE starting any med."
Does anyone take a combo of Seroquel, Abilify, and Cymbalta for bi-polar disorder? I've been on Seroquel and Cymbalta for a while and just added Abilify, been experiencing odd side effect.
manicmousy replied: "i have a friend who's on abilify & seroquel...i tried to reach her, but i can't get a hold of her.
i would call the pharmacist asap. they know more than dr's imo.
see what they have to say.
good luck!"
fstladylaudie replied: "I think you need to get a second opinion---my sisters quack of a doctor had her on 5 meds at 1 time & said ahe was bipolar. The medicine caused several bad side effects and nearly caused her to have a nervous breakdown---she is off of them now with new meds and was told now she is not bipolar---she is better ---but she self medicated with alcohol because of her taking too many meds---and caused there fore yet another problem .
Please take my advice and see a specialist in Psyciatry for a second opinion---Taking more than 1 or 2 meds for any psyciatric problem can be more dangerous than helpful!
Good Luck1"
madhava r replied: "always mention content-not brand name!doc who prescribed is best for discussion...pl avoid web."
Two hours after I take Abilify in the evening I get mild tachycardia? Its quite odd, as it is accompanied by palpitations, dizziness and light-headedness.
Question Queen Chocolatine! replied: "When they had me taking it in the hospital, it had me confused & it had my hands shaking. I HATE that medicine! It had me so demented that I might've drunken a bottle of isopropyl alcohol, thinking it was water. That is ONE dangerous medicine!"
jackie replied: "My son was prescribed Abilify after being diagnosed with BiPolar with manic tendencies. He hated it so much, he totally went off all his meds. Keep searching until u find the medication that is right for you. Good Luck."
maddog malone replied: "I am not surprised, most psycho drugs that shrinks prescribe these days are extremely dangerous poisons to the body. The best thing to do is fire your shrink NOW before it is too late and that QUACK bastard kills you with all these horrible meds.
Just remember how many years went by until the FDA FINALLY stepped in to have black warning labels put on antidepressants. The drug companies have been paying HUGE kickbacks to the shrinks in exchange for prescribing their products to patients. Shrink overprescribed drugs such as Prozac and Zoloft to people for years eventhough thousands of people actually killed themselves due to the fact that the drugs made them more depressed."
jacalynfreeborn replied: "According to my drug book you should be bradycardic, not tachycardic. I wouldn't take it or just have your MD switch you to something else."
holey moley replied: "These are bothersome side effects from an atypical anti-psychotic. I had the same problem with Geodon.
Go back to your psychiatrist and ask if you can try Seroquel, Risperdal, or the like. Sometimes the older, tried-and-true meds work better."
jannsody replied: "Any such side effects should be reported to your doctor right away such as the palpitations and dizziness. He or she may want to switch your meds that is more compatible with your body chemistry. Please do call your doctor asap if even the 'answering service' since it's the weekend. When in doubt, go to the ER/hospital."
Mrs.sexy women Brenda replied: "my daughter had that from the same med , no body could help her, her eyes rolled upward uncontrollable and she almost looked like she was having some kinda seizure, and she shook but she knew every thing that was going on around her,,, and could talk,,,, her heart would feel like it was coming out of her chest, we ended up at the hospital one night while it was happening, and one of the er nurse used to work on the phic flood , she knew what was happening, they took my daughter right in the back and put her on iv with benadral to bring the distonaicreaction under control , she went off it all together and shes doing wonderful on lamictal 200, shes a changed person always smileing again her moods are unnder control harly ever tired ,no shes not in a manic, she her old happy go lucky self again thank- god ,,, i forgot to tell you she has bi-polar"
How can I give off the right impression to people. I've got the feeling people think I'm odd? I'm 16 and I'm taking abilify after a period of isolation and being diagnosed with major depressive disorder with psychotic features. I want to give off the right impression or vibe to people, but I'm at a new school and I need a girlfriend as soon as I can.
Maybe it's that I keep my head down sometimes, or that my anxiety makes me tense or stiff, I'm not sure.
Could anyone give me some advice?
fd834 replied: "There is nothing wrong with being considered odd, I prefer people who are odd it makes them more interesting, who wants to be normal.
Don't worry about not having a girlfriend, having a girlfriend doesn't define who you are, and should not make people view you differently. As long as you are happy with yourself others will see that and accept you.
Best of Luck!"
Susan J replied: "Just be you there's nothing wrong with being odd. give it some time you will get a girlfriend there's not a teen in school that doesn't have anxiety once your medication kicks in you will feel awhole lot better"
Any suggestion for meds to help treat ODD/Bipolar in a child? My 8yr old son was diagnosed with ODD...they said it is becasue he is bipolar....the only thing i notice is CONSTANT anger...we have tried Abilify and now on Geodon i see good results with this med however by the time he is out of school it does not seem to be working as well.....can anyone suggestion other meds or soem techniques to help
mlgable replied: "If the meds are not holding him long enough you need to report this to the doctor. The doc is the one who will help you figure out what to do to as far as his meds are concerned."
Kali replied: "Try speaking with a homeopathic doctor as well. Old wisdom has often been tossed out for new expensive pills. My son used to have symptoms of ODD, but I couldn't really buy into it all, not with what they were charging for the meds. I pulled him off of TV, video games and lessened the visual stimulation in his room. He is much more calm. He has been Dx'd with Autism, a very mild form, and manageable without drugs. I've also changed his diet to eliminate gluten. Sometimes irritable bowels make people very angry. I'm not saying to take him off the meds cold turkey, I'm just saying to check all the avenues."
darling replied: "I would recommend seeing a psychiatrist, if you aren't already."
Mo replied: "Please be careful as you and your son enter this phase of his life. My two oldest sons, now 15 & 17, were both diagnosed initially at an early age, about 2-3 years old, as ADHD. The diagnoses have changed over the years, at different times, by different doctors, as many combinations of ADD, ADHD, Bipolar, ODD, etc. They have both been thru various combinations of drugs over the years. The list of meds is long, including but not limited to, Ritalin, Dexadrine, Adderall, Depakote, Strattera, Wellbutrin, and Cylert. The meds never really got all the behavior problems under control. Now my 15 year old has been dealing with Eosinophilic Gastroenteritis(EG)/ Eosinophilic Enteritis (EE) for three years. One expert stated that it could be due to the extensive numbers and amounts of meds introduced into his system over the years. I never had much faith in these ever-changing diagnosis. Their mom & I often disagreed about the diagnosis and treatment, but went with the advice of the many doctors and specialists. I am in no way any expert, and I'm very cynical regarding some parents, doctors and educators who I believe seem to push these meds on some kids who don't need it, but instead need to teach kids discipline, self-control, and how to control their behaviors. I think Kalis advice is probably very good to consider. (Again, after many years of problems, Im no way an expert, and should be better educated. I am biased against these drugs, but admit that some people do need them.) My biggest advise, please educate yourself, ask lots of questions, get multiple opinions, and look at every option. Also, there are many organizations out there to help you, full of other parents that have been thru this with their kids. Seek them out and get involved. Thanks for asking for the sake of your kid. Good luck."
dmbraz1973 replied: "My son is 12. He has ADHD, Bipolar, ODD, Conduct disorder and anxiety disorder to name a few.Many of these he has had since age 4. I try to keep his meds relatively low as he is fine at home with very strict guidance and immediate consequences or rewards (even verbal praise is highly effective as a reward.)depending on actions. Currently he takes Stratera for the adhd(40 mg as more activates his mania), Risperdal which is an anti-psychotic 2x daily (1mg in the a.m. and .5mg at bedtime) and Tenex which slows him down without grogginess 1mg 2x daily.
My son exhibits the constant anger in school because of their lack of organization, over stimulation and they walk on egg shells around him so he does not assault anyone. At home he is generally fine and the way we do this is with a very set and rigid schedule for him so he is always busy and can always refer to his posted schedule so he knows what happens next, as believe it or not unstructured time can cause more anger and frustration than lack of Meds. He has schedules for week days and another for weekends and it calms him and gives security to him as children with these issues can be very uncertain and insecure. A good counselor can help you with this. My son's is wonderful in working with us. I am not saying to devote the entire day to chores or work but for him even free time needs to be scheduled and earned through good behavior and he has a specific list of what free time includes EX: 1 hr video games, or 1 hr appropriate tv programs, or 1 hr outside time in his fort.
And believe me you will not see a miracle overnight. It takes 21 days to form a habit. We even schedule get out of bed, get dressed, brush teeth, eat breakfast, take meds, comb hair, gather school supplies.......etc.
It helps too if he also has an IEP in school. Everyone needs to be on the same page and work together. I am currently fighting my school system for a better more structured IEP with smaller classes and less hallway time for him to get in trouble, we are also aiming for a 1:1 aid to keep him on task and out of trouble during the school day. If he has a bad day at school, he will come home and take it out on those he feels closest to and those who he knows will still love him no matter what. That would be his family. Been there. Not Fun!!!
I have been through 6 doctors and many counselors until finding the right ones who really understand my son. This is most important. In my sons younger days he was in my opinion, over medicated and used as a guinea pig by the docs, instead of them putting a really good behavior plan in place with minimum meds. Over the long haul those meds will cause problems later since he will most likely need them his whole life. My son has already been through Tardive diskenesia, which luckily since I worked in the mental health field, I knew what to look for and which med to stop immediately. My son at age 8 used to try to Stab me. He tried to stab my mother, as well as my sons father.He tried to drown his little sister. He did end up going to a residential school for a while and it was there that he realized that he wanted to be home and the behaviors were unacceptable.It was here that i learned that parenting tecniques were just as important if not more so than the meds.
There are agencies that can also come out to your home to work with you on things like reward programs, schedules, parenting tecniques etc. Contact your local Department of mental health. You are on a long, slow and winding road. There are going to be many ups and downs, failures and successes for years to come and it can seem overwhelming. Getting a counselor for yourself as well can help you to better handle your son. Get the whole family involved. Put as many support programs in place as you can and make a list and keep it posted on the fridge.
Mine includes Dept. of Mental Health, Department of Social Services, EFS(empowering families for success), His med doc, his counselor, the family counselor, the local police, all his teachers, and of course, the local crisis center, which thankfully we have not had to use for a few years now.
You may also want to implement a daily log book to establish better communication between you and his teachers. Send it daily. Let them know how his night went, and the morning too before he leaves, They in turn will each let you know of anything eventful that happened in his day at school and you may be able to target behaviors to specific triggers.
I could go on and on.
Do yourself a huge favor. Go to the book store and purchase a book called The bipolar child by Demitri and janice papolos. MDs. best investment I ever made.
Good luck and hope this helps."
CLICKHEREx replied: "2 fish oil supplements daily may help."
Lin s replied: "Abilify turned my Bipolar son into a zombie who slept 18 hours a day. I have seen good results with Geodon in some of my students. My son currently takes Adderall and Risperdal. He is sixteen now. I can't tell you how many different combinations we have tried. Some lose effectiveness after a while. At one point, my son was on 9 different meds and I had to say enough is enough and get him on as few as possible. His Adderall is time release so it works all day."
ARC ANGEL MICHAEL replied: "yes Zoloft is a very safe drug on the market but most of all with any drug you must watch him or her to see behavior changes such as lows an highs most of all be there for them they need your help from a friend Michael"
Linda replied: "I doubt the diagnosis of bipolar at such a young age.
Ask the doctor about Strattera. It's a nonamphetamine for adhd that should take away some of that anger. It will stop his mind from racing and he should be able to relax.
Strattera does take some getting used to. For the first 3-4 weeks, he will lose his appetite, can't sleep, will be nauseated, etc. All that will go away in a month. If you decide to try it, start at a low dose and work up."
badluck4_2long replied: "I have 2 kids on meds for anger issues, ODD,,,bi-polar.
And unfortunately, I have no happy tales to tell.
I am sorry-but the meds will change A LOT, and it is good to get them into some kind of therapy. And you, a support group.
Also, me and doc got into an argument about the meds" they are for their performance in school, NOT to make them more tolerable for you!"(at that moment-I wanted to hit something!)
It sucks because I get all the back-draft when they come off the meds, and I get the attitude, the anger, the fits of rage.
My oldest child on meds, beat the crap out of me this summer, he no longer lives with me, but his grandparents, we can't be in the same room for 5 minutes without things getting really bad.
Has your son always had issues with anger? Was this a sudden onset?
My oldest I swear came out pissed at the world-
my 8 year old on meds, was an angel til about 2 years ago, now, he gets angry over anything and nothing, and his first reaction is to hit whoever or whatever upset or angered him, and if it isn't anyone, and he just gets frustrated, he hurts himself. I am still struggling with this issue.
Just keep faith mom,,,,times are tough, but they all keep telling me, you are never given any more than you can handle.
Please update this when you find a solution or two, I would love to hear all I can on how to help my children.
Good luck to you, I hope you find all you need."
What_The replied: "DO NOT RUIN YOUR CHILD'S LIFE!!!
HE DOES NOT HAVE BIPOLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Psychiatry Exposed:=
Psychiatry. Voting on Diseases:=
Psychiatry is a fake science. Proof:
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brad g replied: "hi my name is bradley G. I am a 17 yr. old diagnosed bipolar.
when I was younger I had been diagnosed as ADD, & ADHD.
your son has probably been diagnosed as one of those 2 @ this point in time by the doctor(s) because DR's don't like to give that diagnosis @ this point in time. mainly b/c of the large amounts, of meds that he will need to take. he may be on ritalin, resperidol, stratera, wellbutrin, conserta, ETC.
i have been on them all. unfortunately I was diagnosed @ age 12. when i went to a hospital for a psyche evaluation. In the end the results showed that i had similar answers to those who where bipolar. try not to have the above drugs perscribed. as of late i have been on 3x 500mg DEPAKOTE's(grey), 1x CONCERTA (red in color, unsure of mg's),1x3mg inversa(white) (new med I think that is the name),had been on 2.5 mg of abilify ( 1/2 of the blue pill),
had been on 5 mg zoloft (unsure of color)"
jcox_teacher replied: "My son is 4 and has bipolar. Risperdal was and is our "Miracle" medicine. Before the risperdal he would rage for hours at a time, break windows and other things...and he had a lot of anger. The Risperdal almost completely stopped all his rages and tempers. He is like a different child. Try to seek psychological therapy with him through a psychologist that specializes with children. Ask about the Risperdal. My son takes this and Clonidine."
I recently got put on effexor and abilify is it ok for me to already see results? I started taking these meds for possible manic depression. My psychiatrist put me on a very low dose of each
5mg-Abilify
75mg-Effexor
I saw a change almost instantly, so did my friends and family.
I am happier, I wake up easier, I am not as short and snappy, I love it- but im afraid that it is all in my head and that I am going to crash hard.
I also have seen odd side effects- Very shaky, My eyes have trouble focusing at times (pupils will get big, then small, then big, then small over and over) and a decreased appetite (which is good :)
So help me please, I ave a very low tollerence for medications but my doctor ssaid I wouldn't see a change for atleast two weeks.
I was on Paxil before this and it only made me worse.
Loon-A-TiK replied: "i personally love abilify. it makes me a little shaky, but heck, i'll take that for feeling better. i take a whole bunch of stuff though, and abilify is just one of those things.
i didn't like effexor. it made me throw up."
lilia replied: "This sounds good to me. Your side effects are probably only temporary.Most antidepressants have an appetite increaser that cause you to gain weight. Effexor doesn't have this. So you are experiencing something you are not accustomed to. If you need to lose weight it will happen naturally with the Effexor. But if you don't want to lose weight than you need to make some changes in your diet. Adding foods with more calories, more cabohydrates etc. Sometimes these meds work quickly especially the Abilify so this sounds normal and good to me."
Laylah S replied: "Well, if you think you feel better already, that's great for you, but I know they do take a few weeks to kick in, maybe even longer. I can't say much about the Effexor because it was so long ago that I took it. I was on Abilify for around a year, I was up to around 15 mgs per day. So, 5 mgs is a good starting dose. I never really noticed any side effects from Abilify except weight gain, that's why I went off it."
piji_caj replied: "Abilify kicks in pretty quickly, so I'm not surprised that you're feeling something. Also, persons with Bipolar Disorder sometimes react quickly to antidepressants.
Watch out for mania with those two drugs. They're both pretty activating."
Odd things including speech incoherence? NB: I am on Abilify for schizophrenia.
I can type fine on computers, but when I talk, I talk somewhat incoherently; my sentences come out in strange orders quite a lot, or I just talk rubbish. Even teachers have looked at me oddly when I've answered questions. I've lost my emotions. I have become really clumsy. Sometimes my motor co-ordination gets so bad that I can't even make coffee. There are times during the day when I'm attacked with a sudden rush of tiredness and bad muscle weakness, which usually results in me (if I'm at home) sleeping for 15 minutes, or (if I'm at school) going to the school nurse.
I was looking through a microscope in biology, and I found that my eyes move independently. They shift in all sorts of directions, very annoying as I kept having to move my head to see through the narrow eyepiece.
I've become much more restless than before.
And every night, when I'm supposed to be asleep, I might as well be on acid (hallucinations and similar).
What is happening? odd
I'll try and communicate to my doctor, but he's hard to talk to and a bit of a fascist pig at times.
Artemis replied: "You should probably go see the doctor who prescribed the medication for you. Maybe it's what's causing these symptoms and maybe he or she can do something about it."
linda c replied: "I'm sorry for all you're going through and the only advice I can offer is that you seek medicl advice. You're not going to get the right answer on here so go to the professionals, but hey, It's been nice visiting with you. Keep in touch and let us know how you come on but i'm sure you'll be fine."
knicname replied: "Try to be clear when you're speaking to your MD. Maybe write down what you want to say to him...like "could these be side effects from the Abilify? If not, what is going on with me?" "At night I feel like I'm on acid (hallucinations and the like)".
The restlessness might be from the Abilify, but I've never heard of the sensation with your eyes.
Perhaps you might go to an eye MD and check it out to see if it's real or your perception of things.
I think you are suffering from the symptoms of your illness & anxiety.
Schizophrenia can use up a lot of energy...trying to act like everyone else. It must be very tiring.
Good luck to you. Try to give your MD a chance."
michele replied: "Tardive dyskinesia (or possibly a similar neurological issue) sounds like a potential culprit here, unfortunately.
It is very, very important that you discuss these symptoms with your physician. In fact, I encourage you to print out this question and fax it to him.
Immediately.
In addition, you would be wise to call the on call physician for your group if your particular psychiatrist is not available. Be sure to point out the motor and speech issues.
Frankly, if I were in your position, I would NOT re-dose (abilify or any other anti-psychotic or dopamine-active substance) until I had very clear direction from my physician.
Hang in there,
~M~"
stuartscott replied: "Make an appointment with your GP or, community psychiatric nurse if you have one and discuss your symptoms. Anti-psychotic medication can cause a condition called acute dystonia which may show up as speech difficulties, odd eye movements and clumsy movement of the limbs (usually arms). You may simply need your dose adjusted or prescribed additional medication to stop these side effects. Don't stop your medication though until you get advice. Good luck"
Smiler replied: "There is a side effect of some meds called (and I'm about to spell it wrong!) Occulargyracrisis...... its when the meds can affect the eyes. Some people take procyclidine for it. Go and see your doctor, as it could all be down to the meds (tiredness, clumsiness etc)."
lucy_shy8000 replied: "Sounds like some of the things are symptoms of schizophrenia itself and some may be from the medication. One of the key features is odd speech, I've heard it called 'word salad' or sounding as though your sentences have been through the blender.
If you are new onto this medication, it may be that it is beginning to work, and as a result you are now aware of some of your symptoms whereas before you were not. You may have thought you spoke clear sentences, but others heard other words.
Hallucinations auditory and visual are also a symptom of schizophrenia.
Being restless, clumsy, and exhausted are probably from the medication. They use strong stuff to treat this.
These things should be looked at, and discussed with your doctor - however you can. Writing a list of symptoms and taking it in is a good start. This may be the wrong medication for you, or you may be tolerating it badly. There is almost always another medication to try.
Also could be helpful to get a note to take to your principal so that you won't be penalized for sloppy work when it's not your fault (can't see thru the microscope, can't write with shaky hands, can't co-ordinate in gym, etc).
Good luck! Keep trying"
12 year old with ODD? Our son was diagnosed with Oppositional Defiant Disorder(ODD) And he basically makes our life hell. It is constant chaos. He lies constantly even at one point lying about being abused and we had DSS show up at our house. He is on Abilify but it doesn't seem to be helping as of yet. He has not completed homework since March. We told him at that time his consequence was he is grounded until he completes his homework. We had no idea it would go on this long. He decided to wait it out until the last day of school, thinking we wouldn't make him do it then. We told him no, even though he could no longer hand it in or get credit he still had to complete it. We were told to be consistant with our consequences and follow through but damn.. He will just sit there and scream and carry on instead of just completing it and being done with it. And yes it is stuff he knows how to do..like shade in 2 boxes out of 10. He claims he has "forgotten" and it's "too hard" And no he is not in Spec.Ed. Advice?
Earlier in the year he got out of having work sent home with him because he told the school he didn't get his work done because he gets beat up, then he started saying he gets thrown into walls and crap like that, DSS has said he can not have any physical punishment more for our own protection than his. We have tried, time outs, loss of privileges, everything..nothing works. And now with the HW we tried saying ok just give us 4 hours of solid work then you can go outside, do whatever..nope he just screams and cries..his behavior affects the whole house. We try counseling but he plays the counselor, just like everyone else. We are at our wits end, he constantly creates the chaos and tries to get everyone fighting. Please has anyone had any experience with this? If he developes conduct disorder...I don't know if our family can survive that, we are barely getting through this.
Bryony replied: "my best advice is too call a social worker round to talk to you about how to hanle his behaviour and ask her to talk to him about it too, trust me social workers help :)
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Jennifer replied: "Telling a child like that he has a disorder will fuel the fire. it is ridiculous to even have names for "disorders" like that. all children have different needs and different ways of coping (or not coping). I have an 8 yr. old who does similar things- crying fits about having some work to do. It's easy stuff that he knows- just like you stated with your son, but his problem (my son's) is that he has trouble concentrating and gets very easily frustrated. he is almost too aware for his age. his brain gets flooded and he can't think. sometimes we give him a break let him take his mind off of things for a half hour them ask him what will aid in getting the work done. it helps. i don't think your son has something wrong with him and the meds are almost surely making it worse."
Kay replied: "stick with the homework thing, not only will it teach him that u care but his teachers will see u do they may want to help a little. also, u need to find other things other than jus being grounded to use as punishment. jus take away one thing that he really likes and tell him that until he can exhibit his best behavior for a period of time(more than one day) then he can have it back.....but be consistant its all u can do to "fix" the problem even a little."
Harry G replied: "Well while therapy helps, I agree a Social Worker can be very helpful. I would also suggest thinking about a residential program that are best trained to deal with his kind of behaviors. He needs to learn appropriate coping skills and to handle situations in life with positive behavior and to manage how he communicates with others because it effects their relationships with him."
Matthew K replied: "give him a smack. not enough to leave a mark. my parents did it to me, and i turned out well. from a very early age i was taught to behave and my parents never had to count past 2 otherwise i knew what was coming. trust me tough love is what's needed. I'm 18 now and am a well behaved lad."
Bridget H replied: "My 13 year old almost-stepdaughter is ADD/ADHD as well and is on Strattera for her issues. She isn't in Special Ed but is on a "slow track" program -- she is in the same class as others her age, but the expectations are lowered for her, and instead of having a free study period, she sits with either her tutor or her guidance counselor (alternating days) in a constant effort to get her up to speed with the class. Her school's policy is to mainstream slower and LD kids; yours may vary.
You haven't said whether or not you have seen a counselor or sought help for this. My advice is that if you haven't, please do. ASAP. Your son could have underlying issues, such as also being ADD/ADHD or bipolar. ODD often exists with ADD/ADHD and bipolarism, and my step-daughter exhibits signs of ODD as well (anger management problems, lying, manipulative, etc). Outside of school, my step-daughter attends a children's behavioral clinic once a week. Her counselor meets with her, then calls her father and I in to discuss things/strategies with us. Her father's insurance is good, but even if it wasn't, we'd be able to afford it, as they charge on a sliding scale for those without insurance. Almost every community has a clinic or service like that, and you really owe it to yourselves to find it and use it. It will take a lot of stress off you and your family.
Consistency is definately the key in dealing with these kids. My step-daughter's mother is not in the picture (she has substance and other problems) and I have no prior experience with this issue, so I had to learn from scratch about how to help parent her. I was told that it is very important NOT to back down when you levy consequences. And become immune to the tantrums. I know it's hard as heck when the kid is bouncing off the walls of their room...but you have to say to them, "I am not accepting your behavior and I am not listening to it. I will speak with you again when you demonstrate respect -- and until then, you can stay in your room." -- and then walk into another room or into the back yard. And also follow through with punishments and don't accept the "it's too hard" excuse. The "I Can'ts" are classic with these kids, and they only use it because it works. So make it not work and make it a bad alternative in their minds. We tell my step-daughter in so many words, "You know how to do this, but now you're being lazy. You can either do it without giving us attitude, or be grounded for a week." Then follow through. It only took a month of having Hannah Montana and other TV shows being banned from the house and a forced bedtime of 7P -- along with a refusal to cave in to tantrums -- for her to start slowly falling into line. A few months ago, she had a tantrum and broke her bedroom door and kicked her A/C out of the window. Well, she's learned the hard way now that she can sweat through summer - because she's not getting a new A/C - and that if she wants a new bedroom door, she will have to buy one out of her allowance and help her father install it. She's whined to me a few times, "Can you please talk to my dad about getting me a new A/C?" And I keep responding, "Honey, you know that's not possible. You broke your A/C on purpose and if you want another one, you're going to have to come up with a way to buy one." She also whined about her bedroom door - and has been told again and again why we won't buy her a new one. The answer always is, "You made the choice to flip out and break it off the hinges. So we're making the choice not to buy a new one for you." Repetition, repetition, repetition -- and don't allow yourself to be "played." These kids will also try to pit one parent against another ("If Dad says no, ask Mom") , so watch for that and make sure you and your son's father have a strategy and present a "united front."
Being that we're at the end of the school year, also request a meeting with your son's school and work on strategies with his teachers for next year.
It's unfortunate that the laws in this country have now tilted towards all of the "rights" being allocated towards kids, with very few left for parents to be parents. Since your son has already contacted DSS (in some places, it's known as DCF) once before, I would suggest documenting everything that happens, so you have a paper trail. DCF/DSS, while they provide a valuable service, tends to overreact on what can possibly be perceived as "abuse," and you need to protect yourself against false allegations. Write down the date and time of incidents, along with what happened. It's unfortunate, but kids have learned that they can manipulate the system and parents have to protect themselves.
Good luck. I know it's not easy but I'm right there with you."
Melissa A replied: "I am sorry, but Jennifer does not know what she is talking about. ODD is a very serious disorder.
He definitely needs the help of a therapist or psychologist on a regular basis. If he is taking a medication that you do not feel is working, then you should talk to the doctor. DO NOT make the decision to take him off of the medication without the doctor's help. Also, if the medication is relatively new, then there may not have been time for it to show its full effect yet. Many medications take several weeks of consistant doses before they build up in the system enough to take effect. You may just need to be more patient.
Ask your doctor for help with his behavior. Better yet, maybe there is a doctor in your area that specializes in ODD and Conduct disorder! I know there are books and programs that offer advice to parents on how to deal with the ODD child. Your doctor might be able to recommend one.
Also, look for some sort of support group- even if it is an online one. The rest of your family is in need of some sort of counseling/support, too! Belonging to a parent's group for ODD may help. At least you will have someone to talk to that knows what you are going through.
Whatever you do, you have to be consistent with an ODD child. It can turn into Conduct disorder if you are not careful. I am afraid it will never be easy to deal with him, but you may be able to find ways to make things go a bit more smoothly."
peggy s replied: "Call DSS and have them sit in a place without your child knowing that they're there and they write the things down and while they're there try to get him to do his homework.Then they transfer the stuff to counselors and he won't get away with it anymore.And if he believes in Santa still, have the father or a friend that he doesn't know and will never meet dress up as Santa and say that if he doesn't be good he'll be on the naughty list till he finishes his homework and keeps doing the work like he's suppose to.
Try the Santa thing first if he does.And it's better to have the friend that he never met or meet."
I need help with my 8 year old who has ADHD, Bipolor and ODD? My son was diganosised at 4 with ADHD. We tried dexaphedamin, adderall, adderall x, stattera, clonidine, methlyphenidte, and now Medidate CD. His rage was getting worse and we went to dr number 4. He was dignosised with bipolor and odd about 3 months ago. They put him on resperdone which worked WONDERS...for 2 weeks than stopped working (very common) we stopped it for a week and tried again and nothing. So they tried abilify which did nothing. The dr now said to just keep him on the medidate cd for ADHD (which works) and clondine at night, but nothing to help his anger. I dont know what to do any ideas out there?
Virginia G replied: "My sisters son is diagnosed with the same exact thing, I really have no advice except continuing to talk to the doctor and keep on looking on the internet for new treatments. My sister also takes her son to a psychologist for extra help. Seek out support groups, they often have new ideas and treatments. Good luck and don't forget you are not alone go to a support group for you. It is amazing what a difference it makes to know you are not alone it this."
Barry H replied: "Dawna K,
Sorry to hear of this challenge...But the soution is multi-functional which I'm sure you already heard...
My medial advice, sinse the drugs for hyper-activity are helping him (basically having a calming or sedative effect on his nervous system, particularly the brain), no point in imaging investigations or neuro-psychiatry or neurology at this point...
From what you report he is manageable (for now), except for his "incredible anger" ok, I'm sure you've been informed of psycho-social therapies-psychotherapies for older adolescents and adults, to help them, cope...
Liitle D, I'll call him..even at four is having some issues, I suspect not only psychitrically or psychologically related, meaning the family or origin, is having (unfortunately) a negative impact on his psyche, sorry to say it, maby out of your control, for now...
Don't know how he will settle down: bottom line, if ya can't provide him with what "he" wants (if it's out of your hands/power to do right now, he may as he may not take some time...
keep on beeing sensitive to the little guys needs, even tantrums, screaming, kicking and fighting, and biting can and will settle down or can, by K1...
You will have ta explore other options, however and I emphathize with ya, because it's hard...
If it's not driving you both up the wall, the good...at least your having in there (coping), trying to cope...
If your partner/husband is really supportive, seek out support groups for your yourselves, on-line and off if ya wish..including spiritual support, I mean a trusted minister of religion etc, counselling supports,etc.
I'm just suggesting, obviously...
If the man in the house, is not the father of the child...that may pose a problem for some time, obviously...
If he is...the father knowingly or unknowingly may not be providing what little D needs (psychologically, emotionally, physically)...I don't know...just my experience...
Hope you and him are bonded...that's important for the little fella's psyche, and he's letting you know it. I think, could be wrong.
try to stear yourselves in the right direction...I'll bet you are trying and he''ll follow along...
He's NOT on TOP of YOU!
He's really only a little guy, with a little problem...believe ya me.
God bless and Much love to you both."
Should my 12 year old daughter qualify for ssi? She has add,md,odd,adhd and ld, shes in the 6th grade but do 3rd grade work(yes shes in sdc)she 's on medication Abilify
KoKo KiTTy replied: "No offense (actually please do take offense) but, how many drugs did you do when you were pregnant?"
ANGELMIGUEL replied: "right on men huge pay check go for it"
mama t! replied: "well technically she wouldnt be getting the SSI check, YOU would.
shes only in the 6th grade, her disabilities arent hampering her from getting a job or anything.. why would she need ssi?"
mav2541015 replied: "well... when you first try to file it... they will automatically turn you down the first time... just so you know... just refile it... and get a black laywer... o.k."
Kelly replied: "Because she's not eighteen she will not get it. You might have a chance, but she won't."
beetle_bug replied: "Possibly for the md, but before you apply think about how it will affect her future. My son has ADHD, ODD, and severe anxiety, the solution for him was homeschooling. He's 7 years old, and is now doing work well beyond what they teach in first grade.
For the uninformed, these disorders are not always caused by drug use and ADHD is a legitimate disorder. If you have a child with ADHD you know it. It has nothing to do with not wanting to deal with you children. My other child is perfectly healthy and on no medication at all. There are also non-stimulant options available now for the treatment of ADHD which is what we opted for after realizing the terrible side-effects of stimulants."
LindaLoo replied: "Typically a 12 year old wouldn't qualify for SSI for a few reasons;
#1 - she isn't capable of WORKING so SSI is usually based on someone ability or NOT to work
#2 - unless these medical/disabilities prevent her from actually attending school, then NO. SSI guidelines will base her qualifying on whether or not she is IN school - able to be in SCHOOL not whether or not she is at grade level.
#3 - if these disabilities as you see them create more emotional,physical circumstances etc in her future then she might LATER in life qualify but not currently.
#4 - you need to make sure she is (or you are) creating a paper trail with her doctors over these years to SHOW in records how this or these disabilities affect her life as she grows & matures. MEdical records are everything and of utmost importance when it comes to SSI/DISability qualifying.
Also, keep in mind that pretty nearly EVERYONE is denied at lst filing. File the Reconsideration Appeal ASAP (there is a deadline to do this) and hire a Disability Attorney if you can find one locally who specializes in this and one that will actually meet with you personally, send for her medical records and not just let the chips fall where they will - as most of these kinds of attorneys do. ASK questions and find a decent one - they are hard to find. THAT IS IF you still feel she might qualify. IF her numerous disabilities and medical issues are documented properly with her Pediatrician you might still have a good case and chance. Personally, I would wait until she is older - but that's just my perspective after working in the system for many years."
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